Podcast: Peak Oil Crisis with Chandramouli Mahadevan
Author: Sundar Rajan G S
20
Apr
Hi All,
Its my pleasure to invite Chandramouli Mahadevan a.k.a Mouli for the first “live” interview on CWS. Mouli is a TLM (Tech Lead and Manager) at Google. He is voracious reader and is kind enough to share some of his learnings about Peak Oil Crisis with CWS Readers. Thank you Mouli for sparing your time.
The following can be used as a reference to skim through the interview.
What is this Peak Oil Crisis all about? (0:09)
Why did the whole issue start? Why is it that the people are suddenly aware of it? (1:26)
How is today’s oil crisis different from 1970’s oil crisis (6:25)
What are the alternate sources of energy available to us? (8:31)
There are these small steps like minimizing driving, work from home etc.. Can economies of scale help us mitigate the crisis with these small steps? (10:16)
Recently, there was a report that US found oil reserves which is approximately equal to one third of the earth’s reserves. Will this help? (13:51)
Well there is shortage of resources on earth!! Should we go beyond earth.. Should we look at moon or mars etc? for resources? (17:45)
We all agree that there is a problem. What can we do to solve or postpone this crisis? (19:51)
Do you think we should get back to small community, work near by, the old way of life? (20:42)
What do you think are the short term impacts of Peak Oil Crisis? (22:06)
Can you talk about the food crisis. (24:06)
What is going to be the biggest problem that earth is going to face? Global Warming vs Peak Oil Crisis vs Combination of both? (25:45)
How long have you been tracking this issue? Can you share some references for further reading? (27:00)
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A suggestion: keen to show your interest in the speaker, you seem to interrupt the speaker; if you note interviews on tv/radio, you will note that the interviewer does not ’speak’ at all during the interview, apart from asking the questions.. To become a better interviewer, I feel, you can show your approval by nodding rather than speaking when the other person is speaking.
Nice post on peak oil, but can you put something on “Hair Oil Crisis”, like why people prefer Brylcreem to Parachute oil or why Dabur Amla hair oil has no money to show ads, or why hair oil industry in India is in slippery slope (no pun intended).
You know, that’s a great discussion! I have two comments on it though…
Firstly, what we are running out of is called Light Sweet Crude. Its the cheapest form for Crude Oil from which we can extract Petrol and Diesel, but by no means the only one. There are large deposits of whats called “Shale Oil” around the world (the 500B barrels in the US that you mentioned in your interview is this type of oil). The problem with this type is that it costs a lot to extract, about $70 a barrel. But if the price of oil is sustained at > $100 a barrel, it now becomes profitable to extract and refine and sell this. And as expected, drilling for shale oil has already started in a big way in the US (see footnote below), and you can certainly expect the supply of oil to increase over the coming years compensating for the fall of light sweet crude.
There other ways of extracting oil too - The world has a very very large supply of natural gas, and this gas can be liquefied to diesel and petrol, but will cost about $130 a barrel. Plastic can be liquefied to crude oil at about $200. Organic waste can be used to recreate oil in a complex biological process using algae that is expected to cost about $260 a barrel.
The other issue is that the rising price of oil is not a bad thing. As the cost of energy increases on one hand, it creates stronger incentives (read: more profits) for alternative fuel sources . Now what are these fuel sources? There are many candidates (solar, wind, geothermal, nuclear, algae etc…). True, the cost of extraction of energy for these today is higher than the cost of the energy produced, but an increasing price of energy means it suddenly becomes viable at some point. Lots of people are putting good money into research and investments of these alternative fuels to reduce the cost of extraction and eventually make it profitable.
But all this is just theory. Is there any way we can verify that this claim is really true? Fortunately for us, there is! Oil Futures! These are securities that are traded in the international markets that indicate what the selling price of a barrel of oil will be in the future. Oil futures for the year 2012, the farthest available today, are still trading at around $100 a barrel, not much different from what the price is today.
What does that mean? It means that it the market (and that means the people who are putting money where their mouth is) thinks that the price of oil is unlikely to raise dramatically in the next 5 years for whatever reason - Maybe the world will cut consumption, maybe lots of new oil will become economical to be extracted and sold, maybe all the cars will move to electricity. But there’s really no reason to worry. You’ll still be able to get your $100-a-barrel oil in 2012!
I think this is great, especially for people like me who are lazy to read :-). Its a very interesting topic too, it would be really nice if you could get a video interview next time :).
Hi,
if you are planning to do something similar to a video interview with transcript, Google video has a way by which you can embed transcript into video (will appear as sub-titles in the video). That would be awesome! you can paste that same transcript here in the blog and thats all you need. I m sure transcripts should also be available for Youtube and other services.
[…] recent happenings as a part of CAT prep, this detail will be very helpful for you guys (I think!) Podcast: Peak Oil Crisis with Chandramouli Mahadevan ? Coffee With Sundar I hope this discussion will help in enchancing your general awareness! I didnt have such a […]
Some minor comments: your mp3 audio is low, at-least for me. Use software like audacity and increase the volume (amplitude).
Reduce the page turning noises, consider using laptop to have questions instead of paper, if that can reduce your noise, you can go greener
Write the transcript (you already told me it became big). In that case, upload the text and give link. People like me who have interest in the subject will read it surely sometime.
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[…] Coffee With Sundar wrote an interesting post today on Podcast: Peak Oil Crisis with Chandramouli MahadevanHere’s a quick excerptGlobal Warming vs Peak Oil Crisis vs Combination of both?… […]
A suggestion: keen to show your interest in the speaker, you seem to interrupt the speaker; if you note interviews on tv/radio, you will note that the interviewer does not ’speak’ at all during the interview, apart from asking the questions.. To become a better interviewer, I feel, you can show your approval by nodding rather than speaking when the other person is speaking.
[…] was listening to a talk on the Peak Oil Crisis, there are a few points I must share too. These are not points I have come […]
Sure AM, thanks for the feedback!
Nice post on peak oil, but can you put something on “Hair Oil Crisis”, like why people prefer Brylcreem to Parachute oil or why Dabur Amla hair oil has no money to show ads, or why hair oil industry in India is in slippery slope (no pun intended).
You know, that’s a great discussion! I have two comments on it though…
Firstly, what we are running out of is called Light Sweet Crude. Its the cheapest form for Crude Oil from which we can extract Petrol and Diesel, but by no means the only one. There are large deposits of whats called “Shale Oil” around the world (the 500B barrels in the US that you mentioned in your interview is this type of oil). The problem with this type is that it costs a lot to extract, about $70 a barrel. But if the price of oil is sustained at > $100 a barrel, it now becomes profitable to extract and refine and sell this. And as expected, drilling for shale oil has already started in a big way in the US (see footnote below), and you can certainly expect the supply of oil to increase over the coming years compensating for the fall of light sweet crude.
There other ways of extracting oil too - The world has a very very large supply of natural gas, and this gas can be liquefied to diesel and petrol, but will cost about $130 a barrel. Plastic can be liquefied to crude oil at about $200. Organic waste can be used to recreate oil in a complex biological process using algae that is expected to cost about $260 a barrel.
The other issue is that the rising price of oil is not a bad thing. As the cost of energy increases on one hand, it creates stronger incentives (read: more profits) for alternative fuel sources . Now what are these fuel sources? There are many candidates (solar, wind, geothermal, nuclear, algae etc…). True, the cost of extraction of energy for these today is higher than the cost of the energy produced, but an increasing price of energy means it suddenly becomes viable at some point. Lots of people are putting good money into research and investments of these alternative fuels to reduce the cost of extraction and eventually make it profitable.
But all this is just theory. Is there any way we can verify that this claim is really true? Fortunately for us, there is! Oil Futures! These are securities that are traded in the international markets that indicate what the selling price of a barrel of oil will be in the future. Oil futures for the year 2012, the farthest available today, are still trading at around $100 a barrel, not much different from what the price is today.
What does that mean? It means that it the market (and that means the people who are putting money where their mouth is) thinks that the price of oil is unlikely to raise dramatically in the next 5 years for whatever reason - Maybe the world will cut consumption, maybe lots of new oil will become economical to be extracted and sold, maybe all the cars will move to electricity. But there’s really no reason to worry. You’ll still be able to get your $100-a-barrel oil in 2012!
The NYMEX Crude Oil Futures: http://futures.tradingcharts.com/marketquotes/index.php3?market=CL
The CNN Money article about alternative oils: http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/IBD-0001-24494336.htm
NyTimes article about increased drilling for Shale Oil: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/11/us/11oil.html?em&ex=1208059200&en=070c095a22369c8d&ei=5087%0A
I think this is great, especially for people like me who are lazy to read :-). Its a very interesting topic too, it would be really nice if you could get a video interview next time :).
Hi,
if you are planning to do something similar to a video interview with transcript, Google video has a way by which you can embed transcript into video (will appear as sub-titles in the video). That would be awesome! you can paste that same transcript here in the blog and thats all you need. I m sure transcripts should also be available for Youtube and other services.
Thanks
Varun
Good one Sundar.
Provides good insights about Peak Oil Crisis and is indeed a useful reference… Kudos to CM for sharing his knowledge
[…] recent happenings as a part of CAT prep, this detail will be very helpful for you guys (I think!) Podcast: Peak Oil Crisis with Chandramouli Mahadevan ? Coffee With Sundar I hope this discussion will help in enchancing your general awareness! I didnt have such a […]
Some minor comments: your mp3 audio is low, at-least for me. Use software like audacity and increase the volume (amplitude).
Reduce the page turning noises, consider using laptop to have questions instead of paper, if that can reduce your noise, you can go greener
Write the transcript (you already told me it became big). In that case, upload the text and give link. People like me who have interest in the subject will read it surely sometime.
Regards
Varun
Varun,
Thanks a lot for the suggestions. I am working on it! I really appreciate your feedback.
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